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NOVAK: You know, you can give that old -- that old -- those talking points any time you want, Paul. But the fact is, your party is in bad shape in the white South. And
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BEGALA: Why is that?
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BEGALA: Why is that?
NOVAK: It's because it's a conservative, patriotic area.
patriotic WHITE South.