To build something that can outlast us, we're talking about being there at least another five years," says Sen. Joseph Biden, who returned from his seventh trip to Iraq in July. "If we were doing it well and we had a little luck, we could be there in a circumstance where we are not dying but we are spending."
"We" are not there. "We" are not dying. Those serving the armed forces and obeying the military command, Don Rumsfeld, and CiC George W. Bush are.